Dogpatch Development Watch: New Designs For 800 IndianaMay 23, 2014
AvalonBay is pushing forward with the proposed development of up to 338 apartments in Dogpatch, across the street from Esprit Park.
The 800 Indiana Street project would rise up to 58 feet in height across the 2.5-acre parcel upon which the San Francisco Opera’s set warehouse currently stands, surrounded by 22nd Street to the south, 20th Street to the north, Indiana Street to the east, and Interstate 280 to the west.
The latest designs for the development calls for three distinct five-story buildings, three publicly-accessible plazas, four private courtyards and 4,400 square feet of rooftop deck space. Up to 230 parking spaces would be provided within a subterranean parking garage, accessible from Indiana Street, along with space for at least 177 bikes.
And in addition to a whole host of proposed streetscape improvements along Indiana, there’s the potential for a new public dog park along 20th Street and a dog wash for residents as well. Click any image to enlarge.
Comments from Plugged-In Readers
Can’t say I’m super excited by this, but hey, it’s Avalon. No high expectations there. I will however be really impressed if they manage to keep the courtyards publicly accessible. Does anyone know if there will be retail space?
The courtyards would be for residents and the development doesn’t include any retail.
It looks like I misunderstood “three publicly-accessible plazas”
plazas are the little areas just along indiana street not the larger interior courtyards.
I think it’s fine. I like the use of the curved roofs, that’s a bit of a motif in that neighborhood, so glad to see it continued.
The photo rendering looks like a great in-fill project.
If I lived in the building I would certainly want the courtyards to be maintained for residents only. Why reduce security and introduce the possibility of bad behavior?
I hope the mention of “dog wash” refers to a business, not a public dog wash basin, which could become a maintenance nightmare later.
This weekend would be a good day to use those outdoor spaces (if the property were already built). Only half the traffic on 280! That would make the freeway roar almost tolerable.
Again, why is there no mention of adding a sound and smog barrier to the freeway? Surely that must have been suggested.
The design surely meets all applicable regs for interior noise abatement. Also, windows facing the freeway are minimal and the courtyards are shielded by the building.
Noise abatement is more complicated than just putting up a wall. Where would you put it? For this site, it would have to be on the deck of freeway and at least as high as the highest windows on the buildings. That would require approval from Caltrans, a separate evaluation of impacts, visual concerns, etc. Walls are also very expensive and the existing freeway deck may not be able to carry the additional load of a wall.
As for smog barrier, what do you suggest? A dome over the entire development?
The outside air intake for the entire project will utilize MERV-13 filters that filter the particulate matter out of the air before it enters the building and HVAC system. This is a requirement by California Mechanical Code. Even the public areas that are nested inside the project (although technically “outdoor”) will have to be ventilated. Yes, you heard right, ventilating the outdoor air. SF has strict requirements aside from what CA already has in the mechanical and building code.
Since 280 isn’t going anywhere (too soon):
Upzone 280 side of this low-rise complex by a few floors (2-3) and designate live/work. (whose view would be blocked?)
(Building suburban height smack against an 8-10 lane highway? why?)
Further upzone in exchange for transit funding for pulling out the Mr Roger’s Neighborhood trolley on 3rd and build a subway.
(Pier 70, Warriors, et al- developers to help fund real-city transit projects).
Notwithstanding, initial impression positive, but it’s another example of the City’s pattern of under building, and inability to take risks and make a real difference in responding to the housing situation.
This section of 280 isn’t (currently) going away at all – even the best mislaid plans of Ed Lee only tear down 280 to 16th Street. So 280, and the 20th Street overpass, will remain.
Converting 3rd to a subway is a veeeery long term idea, given that the line was only recently built/refurbished, and there are other areas of the city far more needy of a subway (Geary, Van Ness, Judah, a cross-town 16th Street, a SoMa line, etc.).
A subway in dogpatch? Dreamy
this sucker could be 10 floors and would provide a nice wall against the freeway. glad to see a lot of parking spots. its becoming hard to park in this neighborhood and a new development without parking would make it really suck.
I think this is decently deigned. Could be a few floors higher. But decent as is. Build it! I’m liking the new energy in dog patch. That, and the warriors stadium thing give more connectivity and relevance to the next neighborhood to the south- Bayview. (Yeah I know…I should probably change my name to bayview.cheer.leader 🙂
It is a decent project but then again most of us would Agee we would have little issue with it adding an extra floor
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