In addition to 41 regular season games, and not including any appearances in the playoffs which could include up to 16 games, the Golden State Warriors are projecting their proposed Mission Bay Arena will play host to another 164 events a year for a total of over 200 events annually.
The weighted average projected attendance for an event at the arena is roughly 9,260 people, ranging from 17,000 for a Warriors regular season game to 3,000 when the arena is configured as a “theater.” Arena styled concerts, of which 30 per year are being projected, would draw an average attendance of 12,000 per event.
This is the same projection the Warriors presented over 6 months ago to the Pier 30-32 CAC. From the meeting minutes:
“The mix was developed using GSW historical data and that of comparable arenas; 200 annual events (excluding post-season events) are expected. Projected attendance at GSW regular season games is 17,000. Over half the proposed events will have fewer than 9,000 attendees which is less than America’s Cup concert series attendance. Only a few regular season game overlap will occur between GSW and SF Giants games.”
I think they’re underselling the convention business. Great venue for Google, Facebook, Genentech office parties (Caltrain accessible) plus conferences like Salesforce, Oracle, etc. wish they would incorporate the bay views more into the design. Would be great to have more lounge space with which to enjoy the Bay, especially for non game events.
Well at least you finally decided to put up the PDF I sent you over the weekend.
So with this many planned events at the arena how are those recuperating patients at UCSF hospital going to get any rest….lol???
Thump……Thump……Thump……Thump……Thump……Thump……Thump……Thump……Boom….Boom….Boom….Boom….Boom….Boom….
I really don’t think sound will travel that much out of the enclosed arena. The corner of the hospital block closest to the arena location is also the mechanical and loading dock area. The frontage along 3rd doesn’t seem to be very ‘open’ to the street. It appears like the entry for all three hospitals will be along 4th on dead end roundabouts. I’ll know more about the internal layout after I take a tour in the next few months.
I’m more concerned about how the ambulances will get through the gridlock on game day.
I don’t think they’re building an emergency room.
The new children’s hospital will have an emergency room. The ambulance entrance will be on the 4th St side at Mariposa. There will also be helipad on the roof. Some design details including traffic circulation map in the pdf at namelink.
UCSF identified Owens as the primary EMS route. Owens will have as many lanes as 3rd with less foot and car traffic and without muni trains. All the EMS and patient drop off is designed for the 4th st side one block from Owens.
When 3rd St is very congested in Mission Bay, you should be able to get around it via 7th, Owens, and 280. Or at least you will if 280 isn’t torn down.
BTW, the roughly 4000 cars per Warriors game expected (based on 50% drive at 2.3/car similar to Giants) will have a much smaller impact than if 280 is torn down back to 16th St or so. That section of 280 carries 150,000+ cars per day, according to the Caltrans count.
Please. The surface boulevard that will replace the ugly elevated freeway north of 16th will serve the same number of cars with nearly the same number of lanes in each direction. It will replace the 3 northbound exits and 3 southbound entrances serving the elevated road with at least twice as many headed in all directions. Congestion apocalypse is just as much a canard when it was trumpeted by those who wanted to keep the Embarcadero Freeway.
I didn’t characterize anything as apocalyptic, only that the arena will have less impact than removing the hwy.
But ok doc, please yourself.
The 150k+ cars per day that freeway carries splits about 50k to/from 6th St and 100k to/from King. It directly feeds 5 surface lanes (2 onto 6th and 3 onto King) and a right turn only lane onto Brannan at 6th.
If 280 terminates at 16th and 7th, then that traffic still has to get into eastern SOMA and mostly to 3rd and Embarcadero and then on to the vast parking garages of downtown. The drivers headed for downtown that choose to route through your “all directions” such as through Mission Bay will just rejoin the main stream on King St headed for 3rd or the Embarcadero. Notice that 16th St a block west of 7th is only one lane each way and doesn’t intersect any of the roads headed to downtown.
Drivers on 280 headed for downtown need to use 3rd and Embarcadero because 2nd and 5th service hwy 80 at Bryant/Harrison, which is an even worse mess.
Drivers headed for 280 from downtown have it worse because they have to share 4th with the hwy 80 traffic. Many of them shift over to 6th and the Embarcadero which is why those two streets frequently backup all the way through SOMA to Market St during the PM rush hour.
And yes, removing several ramps feeding the Bay Bridge from downtown after the 1989 earthquake contributed to this because the old ramps used to hold thousands of cars queued to get on the bridge. The Caltrans study predicted it, but SF decided it was better to have the open land along Folsom et al. And we got the added congestion on the surface streets pretty much as predicted.
FWIW, 280 has 4 lanes each way plus wide shoulders and 7th has another 2 lanes (one each way) plus bike lanes and parking. It is very unlikely anyone will replace them with more than 3 surface lanes each way plus bike lanes. For comparison, Van Ness and Lombard, both 6 lane surface streets, each carry a third as much traffic as this section of 280.
Maybe Lacob will organize a team for the WNBA to fill up some of those days?
Helipad