The first closings and owner move-ins at BLŪ (631 Folsom) are scheduled for later this week. With just under 25% of the 108 condos currently in contract (up from roughly 10% in early February), Wells Fargo’s pre-sale requirement still hasn’t been met and they won’t yet be funding loans, but W.J. Bradley Bank will start funding this week.
Starting prices are up slightly from when cuts were rolled out two months ago with 631 Folsom #3E currently the lowest list price unit at $599,000. And at least one of the six penthouses (#PHE) appears to be in contract after cutting its original list price by 26%.
Full Disclosure: BLU currently advertises on SocketSite and provided sales figures at our request but did not provide any compensation for this post.
After looking at all the highrise condos in SOMA, BLU was the one the wife and I decided was the best value. Really wish we could have gotten qualified under these tight regulations….
“Really wish we could have gotten qualified under these tight regulations….”
More tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones.
Does anyone have any idea what these units are really going for? Although I really like the units, I sincerely hope they go a good deal under asking. I wonder if they are going to be less flexible with the sales price since they do have a lender willing to give out loans despite the fact that the units are still under 25% sold.
In all likelihood, it will be like one rincon, where the developer holds his price but an early seller sells at a market price, substantially down from the developer’s price.
Take a lesson from ORH and buy from a private party: let the private party take the earliest losses. It won’t be brand new, and it might take a year or longer, but if you can get 33% off, who cares?
Still, massive inventory is coming online from Blu, ORH, Infinity, Millenium, all at roughly the same time, and there’s no blood in the streets. In fact, folks are eager to see prices drop because they want to get good deal for themselves. In other words, the bears want to buy which, though counterintuitive, is a bullish signal.
I’m kinda beginning to think like Unwarrantedinlaw, although I’m not in the market so it doesn’t matter. But the reality is that nearly all the new inventory is in the market now…not a lot under construction to add to the problem. Once that market finally clears, things will begin to get more orderly (and some of those forced rentals like Artani will begin converting back to condos…)
Not comfy for a) developers of blue, one rincon, infinity, etc or b) anyone who bought units from these developers. And there’s still time for the streets to get plenty bloody.
A family member of mine just bought here at 26% under asking and the Ph E went 30% under asking.
$1.3m for Ph E? That’s another heckuva deal at $650/sf for a view unit.
[Editor’s Note: At the risk of putting words in a reader’s mouth, we’re assuming those are discounts from original list not current.]
If they are to be believed (and not MLS), asking was $2.54m.
Heard PH E went for $1.8 mil or $911 sq ft.
I walked through these last weekend, really a nice product, the finishes are really nice. The wood in the picture on the counter is like laquer, very nice. The hallways are some of the nicest I’ve seen in the condos in SOMA. ALthough the A plan is my favorite, it gets pretty expensive past the 9th floor compared to the B plan right next to it. They are all on the small size. The ones facing the wall were not very appealing, they seemed dark although finishes are nice. Should be interesting to see how they move. Probably will look again after a month or so to see how they are progressing or if they are reducing prices.
That kitchen looks spectacular. I love the tints of the refrigerator and oven. I hope that is real wood paneling and not just acrylic or vinyl siding.
The 3E plan has an increase in price from $575K to $599K, this is a 4.2% increase from last listed price should I be worried that I have missed the bottom ? This is an honest question.
I guess I knew they said they would do this when they got to their target but was hoping that this was just a scare tactic, Love to hear opinions.
Also any opinions on the 2bd 2bt short sale at The Metropolitan for $599K seems like a super price and I know no views but isn’t that still a great price ?? Looking forward to what people that know more than me have to say.
I live in East Bay so don’t know a huge amount about San Francisco housing market.
BLŪ: Does it come with free Heavy Metal neighbors?
God, that kitchen is seriously ugly. Yet again home looks like an office. It has to do with some kind of corporate status seeking, if you ask me.
“The 3E plan has an increase in price from $575K to $599K, this is a 4.2% increase from last listed price should I be worried that I have missed the bottom ? This is an honest question.”
They had some hefty across the board price decreases. They probably looked at the mix of what was selling and what wasn’t selling under the new prices and made some minor adjustments.
It doesn’t indicate that the market has bottomed, it just indicates that they decided that the mix of what was selling wasn’t what they wanted. For example, if Plan B is more profitable, but a lower priced plan A starts selling well, you might try raising the price of plan A so that it’s easier for people to jump to plan B.
Don’t watch asking prices, watch J-O-B-S first and foremost, lending standards second, and supply third. Although there are not a lot of new units being built, that’s because the people in the business know the market is absolutely saturated and the resales to come from people giving up second homes or losing their jobs and moving away will keep it that way for many years to come. The supply is going to be a BIG problem by early next year.
Lots to love about this development. I like the fact that every unit is a 2BD/2BTH. It means fewer units on each floor. I do also like the location. Better than ORH and on par with Infinity depending on your specific preferences. The floorplans while generally small are functional but feel a lot bigger than the Infinity Signature Curve 2BD/2BTH. Unit finishes are also very good.
CONS
– No deeded parking. The assigned parking fork lift device I imagine would get old after some time.
– HOAs appear to be on the high side given you have no real amenities.
– Views are limited.
Overall I would give BLU a A-. I expect that the units will hold their value in the long run since most buyers will be coming in at a lower price point than those who purchased at Infinity or ORH 12 months ago.
This “corporate status seeking” line sounds like the judgement of a malecontent. Institutional design, however bland and awful it may be, tends to be accessible, spacious, and filled with daylight in ways that “cozy” (cramped and dark) traditional homes are not.
@ viewlover,
“ALthough the A plan is my favorite, it gets pretty expensive past the 9th floor”
What price point is the A plan after the 9th floor, especially the one right below the PH floor?
The highest I looked at was 14A and it was a little over a million, asking. Not all of the units have the same color wood for the kithcen islands, I loved the darker zebra wood. The pictures really do not do the kitchens justice. The range hood is vented to the outside which is nice but takes up kitchen storage. The baths are also cool. I agree that the HOA’s are on the high side and the parking is wierd.
I really like the look of this kitchen too and also the building in general, even though I am not the worlds biggest fan of modern architecture.
It is nice to see the bright spot of blue in the sea of beige when I look out my office window.
the real dilema is that no one really knows what a good price is these days. I found some units at Infinity that were better priced and offered more than BLU. I think all buildings are entertainint offers so it is really a guessing game at this point. A sword that cuts both ways imo. Specially in light of the ORH purchase on the other thread. As another poster pointed out, why did the bank accept such a low offer, or is that the reality going forward?
@Mole Man,
“Institutional design, ” what a great and descriptive name. Looks like a freaking hospital.
Not far from “institutionalized design”, if you ask me.
Btw, I loved the freudian typo “Malecontent” :-).
mdinsf@8:27:
Thanks for the info. Could you elaborate if the price was off of the final listing price or the original listing price? Also, would you know what floorplan they bought? I want to figure out what price range they are flexible in.
Institutional Design is a real thing. When structures need to be used by the general public a whole set of guidelines come into play, some of them legal and official, some of them conceptual. When I refer to Institutional Design, I am referring to the design of these institutions.
It is only natual that some elements of Institutional Design, being well thought out and existing for good reason, would get carried over into other areas. It is not at all surprising that people who have narrow expectations for homes are put off by anything at all different, but it is kind of strange to see people bragging about their limited comprehension and expectations on the net.
The ways this trickles down are strange. In the past can in ceiling down lights would mostly have been seen in offices or shops, but never in homes where they would have been considered strange and out of place. Now they are extremely common in homes and are thought of as luxury even though they provide inferior lighting, especially in non-institutional spaces that are too small to let the light spread out properly.
The best quality lighting, which institutions go after because they need good and efficient lighting that people tend to like, is indirect lighting with some daylighting component. Oddly enough nowaydays indirect lighting design in residences tends to generate this same “ew, looks like a hospital” reaction. Given the short time taken for recessed can down lights to go from institutional to delux residential, I can expect for indirect lighting to become common in luxury residences over the next decade or so–perhaps two at most. Probably institutions will go for maximum daylighting because of financial and ecological restraints, so heavy daylighting will become the “ew, looks like a hostpital” of the future. Styles always advance.
@ condo buyer
they bought pretty high up in the A plan and it was 26% below final listing. by the time they had looked at the place, 19A and 20A (the highest below PH) had already sold. we went back last week and the A’s are mostly sold. i think this does explain the recent price shifts.
I went to the Blu when it first opened for a hardhat tour. This was before the real estate crash. Despite a lot of drawbacks from the Blu, high dues, no amenities other than doorman, no deeded parking, cages with lifts for parking, and obnoxious realtors acting flustered with such high demand for the property, I decided to put a offer since they said they would sell out very quickly. My realtor said to put a offer of their listed price and the unit would be yours, however I decided to put a offer minus 10k and the polaris group stated to not even bother putting it in writing because it will be denied anyway. I hated the fact that the polaris group was so arogant and kept stating to me that they do not negotiate since this is a high-end property. If they had just taken my offer instead of being jerks, they could of sold a unit. Now, I keep getting e-mails to reconsider and come back and look at the BLu and there new prices. I hope they go rental since I hear they also pissed off so many realtors who steer clients away from the BLu. If this is the case, resale of any units could be impossible.
Has anybody even moved in?
[Editor’s Note: As noted above, the first closings and move in are scheduled for the end of this week.]
It’s always good to remember that the sales teams at new developments are doing what they’ve been instructed to do by the developer. It’s no different than buying a resale in that respect. The seller – not the agent makes the rules.
@Mole Man,
>>It is not at all surprising that people who have narrow expectations for homes are put off by anything at all different, but it is kind of strange to see people bragging about their limited comprehension and expectations on the net.
Uh, dude. Lots of value judgement in what you have to say about my taste in that long-winded sentence. Narrow-mindedness, ignorance, limited comprehension. Whew.
So you are entitled to making a value judgement, but I am not? That tells you a whole lot right there.
PS: Recessed lighting was seen in precious few offices, but maybe started in art galleries? I know, it makes me feel like a work of art when I cook in one of those kitchens.
PS2: Institutional Design Defense will be the new Twinkie Defense. Just wait 25 years.
Thanks for the info mdinsf.
Blu doesn’t have amenties like Infinity does – yes, but isn’t 24 hour across the street, and Crunch just a few blocks away? And if you really needed a conference center, you can get one at the Marriot across the street, can’t you?
It has high HOA’s – yes, but I think it includes central heating and air conditioning, and gas.
A few of the plans have limited views – yes, but where are you going to find 2-2’s for under $700K in this part of town?
The finishes are superior to all other comparable projects on the market.
Layouts are functional and clever.
And let’s face it, a huge part of your investment when you buy a home is in the location. Location, location, location. This is walking distance to the financial district, union square, Embarcadero, the ball park, countless restaurants and amenities like Yerba Buena, Moma, Metreon, South Park, and the bars on 2nd street (which are close enough for stumbling, but far enough to muffled the noise) Plus, for those who have to commute in and out of the city, you are minutes away from the bay bridge (again, without the noise) and the 280 and 101S.
For someone who doesn’t want to move her car all the time and has a dog that needs to expend energy, doesn’t get much better than this.
I’m just wondering why they aren’t selling…
“I’m just wondering why they aren’t selling…”
It’s more of an indication of the market than the project itself. (Note that Blu went from 10% to 25% since Jan, while ORH is stuck at 70% since last Oct.) If they want to be sold out, all they have to do is lower the price further to meet the market. (Think of Hank Plante and 42 offers.)
ellysf hit it on the nose…blu is in great location, nice finishes, etc. so why aren’t they selling?
my guess is they’re still overpriced in this market. plus, the condo inventory in this area is only going to increase in the coming year (favorable factor for buyers) which signals to me some more discounting on blu’s part.
the main downside for me is the high HOA coupled with very little amenities. is a door man worth $650/month? how come no shared common area, i.e., rooftop deck for views?
i went last week, and the sales agent told me that they are only offering discounts of up to 5% of asking price…with most cases given only a 3% off. they said that they are only doing this b/c prices were recently lowered by 20%. can anyone confirm this move by Blu one way or the other?
ellysf are you kidding with your posting??
“Blu doesn’t have amenties like Infinity does – yes, but isn’t 24 hour across the street, and Crunch just a few blocks away? And if you really needed a conference center, you can get one at the Marriot across the street, can’t you?”
Comment: With that type of logic, why don’t I buy an overpiced condo with no view, but near a public space that has a view, and be happy that whenever I think about the extra $200,000 I am paying for the “view”, I can just walk a few blocks and see “my view”!
“It has high HOA’s – yes, but I think it includes central heating and air conditioning, and gas.”
Wow, I agree, hate those condos without heat.
“Layouts are functional and clever.”
Yes, I’ve seen BLU, and amazingly, all the rooms connect to each other.
“And let’s face it, a huge part of your investment when you buy a home is in the location. Location, location, location.”
Yes, location on a freeway-like boulevard, sandwiched between two buildings, one of which is an 18 story monstrosity with no windows – that’s location for you!
“This is walking distance to the financial district, union square, Embarcadero, the ball park, countless restaurants and amenities like Yerba Buena, Moma, Metreon, South Park, and the bars on 2nd street (which are close enough for stumbling, but far enough to muffled the noise).”
Yes, I hate all those “other” SOMA condos that are not walking distance to all these places.
Plus, for those who have to commute in and out of the city, you are minutes away from the bay bridge (again, without the noise) and the 280 and 101S.
Yes, I hate all those “other” SOMA condos that are not “minutes away” from these freeways.
“For someone who doesn’t want to move her car all the time and has a dog that needs to expend energy, doesn’t get much better than this.”
Have to agree with this one, those two-level “car parkers” do discourage you from moving your car. And the BLU plaza is surely the best dog-plaza in the city . . .
“I’m just wondering why they aren’t selling…”
Are you kidding with this entire post?
I went there a little over a month ago. Although I did not submit an offer, the salesperson I spoke with suggested that there would be flexibility in the pricing. I don’t have the exact numbers she quoted, but I believe she indicated I could probably get the lowest F unit available at the time in the very high 600’s.
I recently visited the development again a week or two ago and spoke with a different salesperson who claimed that there would be no way I can get a price like that. She said I could only get it around the high 700’s.
I’m not sure if one month makes a 100k difference or if it was just a different approach taken by the salesforce.
thanks “condo buyer”. if anyone else has had the opportunity to find out how much further discount blu will give on a unit that’s at or above the 14th floor, C, D, and F plans, please let me know!!! thanks!!!
p.s. any price related insight would be greatly appreciated!
good luck getting any pricing information–even from the sales office….
you ask point blank for a price of any unit not on their sample price sheet and you get nothing…
Resp to jd:
not necessarily true though (“asking for price…and get nothing”), since i’ve gone to plenty of open houses where if you ask what type of discount to expect, they’d give you a pretty realistic answer IMO. i believe it’s in the best interest of agents to give us this insight since 1) we won’t be wasting their time, and 2) they wouldn’t want to waste buyers’ time when their goal’s to make a sale as efficiently and as effectively as possible. Dragging us into the game or delaying the inevitable (of being rejected for a low ball bid) will only work against agents.
What’s the appeal of this building. I toured it twice along with all the other new developments and rated Blu at best #4 out of the 6 buildings I saw.
Pros:
New Building
Nice Finishes
Decent Location
Cons:
No Deeded Parking
High HOA’s
Non Views (To get a good view at Blu, you are looking at $900k) Infinity, ORH has better views for that price point.
Decent Location (Great at many things but Master of None). In the middle of 2 great neighborhoods (South Beach and FIDI but in the middle of no man’s land. 199 New Montgomery, only a block away but has the better location.
No street parking for guests.
No Value. 2 beds start at $600k+.
Better deals at ORH, Infinity, Radiance and One South Park
responding to m3ttaphi:
No. I was in the sales office. I asked them what the price was for a particular unit. They responded that they did not have a price sheet and could not tell me.
Oh-and this wasn’t just the receptionist. This was the sales group.
not really replying to anyone here, but here are some thoughts (please be nice):
we are buying one of the “B” stacks. the prices are very reasonable compared to the other new developments (Arterra, ORH, Hayes, etc.). the question for Blu is if you can tolerate the $600+ HOA and stacked parking. for us, it wasn’t a big deal. we recently got our car fitted for the stacker and it was very straight-forward. however, we understand for others, this is a deal breaker.
to us, the decision came down to now (2009) vs. later (2010), not Blu vs. Infinity vs. Arterra vs. Hayes. we choose now because we needed a place to live and factoring in the tax incentives and low rates (we got sub-5%), you’re pretty much paying the same monthly payment. if you plan and keeping it through the Transbay Terminal Phase II launch, then it’s a no-brainer.
each development has its own unique set of pros/cons and it’s hard to assign value to somewhat subjective attributes like location, finishes, “prestige,” parking, etc. in most cases, you get what you pay for, and you’ll see it in your appraisal (which isn’t an exact science, we know, but it gives you a picture of some comps on the market).
More tears are shed over answered prayers than unanswered ones.
LOL + groan. Feeling sanctimonious that day, were you diemos ‘ol pal?
If you please, I would like to see a chart depicting tears shed due to “answered prayers” versus tears stemming from “unanswered ones.” Thanks in advance, padre.
What’s going on at Blu? The building looks empty but over 25% sold? Did the bank allow buyers to close and move in?
Yes-I am wondering the same thing as anon. I see the ad on this site mentioning the May closes. From what little I can scrounge up, it looks like nothing has closed since May 22. And I can only see like 6 that have closed. Any scoopage?
I am just wondering if we will shortly see a LEASE.EVOLVE.OWN (or whatever the Met thingy is) kind of deal on BLU?
Can you cancel your contract purchase if there is a delay in opening the building ie: closing?
I dunno, anon. I believe I saw somewhere, probably here on SS, that they have had move-ins.
“Feeling sanctimonious that day, were you diemos ‘ol pal?”
Just pointing out that when Mr. Loan Officer turns you down it’s because he doesn’t think you have the capacity to pay the loan back.
You should thank Mr. Loan Officer for his experience and insight and start looking at cheaper properties.
That Mr. Loan Officer was on a ten year meth binge and is now coming down off of it and is starting to do his job again is a good thing, not a bad thing.
Unless you’re the current “owner” of a property that you can’t really afford and will need to dump in the near future.
I don’t know how accurate/up-to-date the data is, but propertyshark.com does show that 6 closings have taken place.
“Wells Fargo’s pre-sale requirement still hasn’t been met and they won’t yet be funding loans, but W.J. Bradley Bank will start funding this week.”
Does anyone know if Wells has started funding loans for BLU yet?
Wells is smart. I wouldn’t want to fund this building either.
Wells may be making loans now. The quote above was from May 5. I was just wondering if any progress has been made in the last almost 2 months… 🙂
blu couple, congrats on the purchase. is the B stack the units facing Folsom? if so, I toured the building and this was the best floorplan in the building. the only problem is that if you want a view, you need to be at least on 15 floor or higher.
All the other floorplans have limited view. I think the E faces a blank wall. The other unit faces directly into an office building next door. Reminds me of living in a fish bowl. I think my 2nd favorite was the unit in the back that faces south. No views and not much to look at but you are not blocked from anything else.
can you tell me how this building compares to others? The HOA’S, stackers and location sort of killed it for us. We are now looking at Rincon Hill. do you find it hard to find parking around Blu? everyday from 4 to 7 is congested from traffic. I know not much better at Rincon, but the left hand side of 1st is clear and we have valet for the guests.
Why are the HOA’S so high? how much are they at New Montgomery or 246 2nd? they both seem comparable to Blu?
I had an appointment to see the building on a weekday. After driving for over 25 mins to find parking, I finally met one of the sales people. The units are nothing like what is posted on this site. I thought I would see big floorplans with great upgrades. Most of the units feels small. Only one floorplan has views, all the other looks into nothing. Nothing spectacular about the finishes. Lobby was a little small. I hope they are able to fill the retail and not have an empty space like the Palms.
I know they cut prices but they need to cut them more. No wonder that are only 25% sold despite being on sale for over the last year. $600k for a 2 bedroom in the middle on nowhere with $600 hoa. Please stop!
I think the units are nice, but agree that they are still a little on the high side for what you are getting. The parking is problematic, but not a deal breaker. My main problem with BLU is a lack of transparency in pricing. (Feel free to see my kvetching above.)
jd, if you think the sales price is high, watch out for the HOA. remember, HOA only goes up and never down.
HOA’S are crazy at Blu.
Lets take a look 4 comparable building’s HOA
2 bedroom +/- a few sf.
BLU: $675.00 doorman, stacker parking
#1) 199 NM: $496.00 includes 24 hr doorman and rooftop views
#2) 246 2nd: $545.00 no doorman, deeded parking
#3) 201 Harrison: $545.00 pool, gym, doorman
#4) Palms: $575.00
The closet building is 829 Folsom and they are quoting $550.00 for HOA and it includes doorman, parking and a rooftop garden. It’s also a boutique condo just like Blu and probably the closest comp in building style, location and appeal.
Higher quality buildings with every imaginable amenities:
The Met: $700
Infinity: $725.00
Rincon Hill: $750.00
Brannan: $780.00
Of all the new buildings, it looks like Blu is the slowest in terms of sales. Most buildings are claiming 75% sold while Blu is still only at 25% and Wells Fargo still will not loan on the building. Pricing should be cut once the sun goes away.
Just catching up with some of these comments, and I mostly agree with you guys. If you like views of city lights (which I personally do), then BLU is decent above the 10th floor for the three plans that face Folsom. But if you need 360-degree views for miles, you should look at ORH instead. Plus, for those considering units on the south side of the building, assume the dirt lot in front of 77 Dow will be built on eventually – such a tremendous waste of space as is.
Personally, I find the finishes and layouts at BLU to be better than most of the nearby buildings. And I don’t mind the stackers. But the HOA is the real killer here. Rumor has it they set them high on purpose, so that they don’t start stepping up for a while, but who knows.
Anyone know when move-ins are scheduled to begin? Walked by the other day, and the building looks done, but was completely dark at night.
lastly, where do the developers or marketers come up with these names?
Blu, Palms … are we in Miami? Both sounds a little douchy for SF.
@ anon-
Thanks much for the thoughtful comparison of HOAs!
Are you sure that Wells is not (as yet atleast) doing loans for BLU? Are they still able to come in under the 26% presales, or are they also facing the higher percentages I have heard are affecting other buildings. (I saw somewhere a mention of a presale requirement for one new building as high as 75%, which seemed unlikely to me, but…?)
sorry-went back and looked…the 75% requirement was that 75% of the building in question be occupied by owners (versus renters) and has nothing to do with any type of presales…
“sorry-went back and looked…the 75% requirement was that 75% of the building in question be occupied by owners (versus renters) and has nothing to do with any type of presales..”
That’s why you’ll see more cuts at Blu. 75% is a huge # to fill. Not to talk smack about lenders but I heard WJ Bradley was not the greatest to deal with and if you want in at Blu now, you HAVE to use them. Unless you like to pay all cash.
Blu is so late in the game trying to meet requirements. Of all new buildings who started sales in 08, they are the farthest behind. Infinity 2 has sold over 125 units since the beginning of the year, while Blu is still only 25% (30 units in 2 years of sales?). Be patient if you want to buy here. The developer will need to get rid of these units and once summer is over, they will panic and lower prices during the winter. At the pace they are going, they will have closeouts in early 2011.
Yes. I am thinking I may visit again in September. 🙂
I recently took a tour of a couple of San Fransico’s new developmonet with an agent. He showed me at least 5 buildings. I’ve been looking for a summer/work condo. I’m based overseas but work in San Francisco 3 months in the year.
I was excited to see Blu and my agent was certain I was going to buy one. The website is nothing like the actual building. They claim views, but only a handful of the units have an actual view. They were on the top 5 floor and you only get a city view. The realtor also showed me the penthouse and it was not what I expected. The penthouse looks like something I could buy in a midwest condo developmet for $400k.
Most of the units had limited view. You either face a silver blank wall or stare into an office building from your bedroom. I’m not sure which one is better. I like to open the curtain from my bedroom and wouldn’t want some late night worker looking in.
The best floorplan was the one to the back on the 2nd floor. No view but had a huge private space. Only problem is if they decide to build on the empty lot, there would be no sun.
I agree the HOA is too high for what you get. Besides the doorman, there’s nothing else. No rooftop deck etc. The parking space is through a cage that I wouldn’t want to use.
As you can see, I did not make an offer on Blu. I guess my agent hyped it too much when it was an average building. People should go in for a tour themselves.
So with the presale requirement having been bumped to 51%, is it safe to expect to see further discounts?
Signed a contract with Blu 10 weeks ago and still waiting on financing from WJ Badly.
@ Blue-Any progress as yet, if I may ask?
Blu is now offering 3.5% FHA Loans. Great to put only 3.5% down and if you decide to walk in the future, you only lose a little change and some pride. Beats putting 15% or more.
Developer has lowered some prices for their developer’s specials. I bet it’ll be like Arterra and have a couple different units per week. Not sure how long it’ll take to close but 10 weeks is just horrible for this development especially for all the competition out there.
@ LMFaO
Do you know if this is being done just through WJB, or are other banks funding also? Thanks!
thanks all for the pricing insight and comments on HOA. and, see you all at the BLU in the fall/winter time…let the waiting game begin.
@ Blue-Any progress as yet, if I may ask?