Five of “Union’s” 76 condos on the all new construction side of the development (a.k.a. 2125 Bryant or “Union South”) have hit the MLS with a studio identified as a “one-bedroom” on their marketing site floor plans (#202) listed for $511,000; two-bedrooms starting at $715,000; and three-bedrooms from $895,000.
No official listings as of yet for any of the 23 “highly-stylized lofts in a classic, historic building” of Union North (2101 Bryant).
∙ The Union Of 76 New Units At 2101/2125 Bryant [SocketSite]
∙ Listing: 2125 Bryant #007 (3/3) – $895,000 [MLS]
∙ Listing: 2125 Bryant #104 (2/2.5) – $715,000 [MLS]
∙ Listing: 2125 Bryant #202 (0/1) – $511,000 [MLS]
I saw these in person a few weeks ago; far away, looks okay. Close up, you will see lots of gaps with the tiles, knock-off fixutes, and overall poor construction. The neighborhood is scary; saw a drug deal while I was leaving, and then some guy was urinating against the side of the building. They are all about 200k over what they should be!
Agree, too expensive for the neighborhood — I only live a couple blocks away. Somebody’s gonna take a bath on this.
Hmmm.. it looks like the MLS listing for #202 is incorrect? The floorplans clearly show it as a 1-bedroom and I would bet on the floorplan more than the MLS listing.
I am strangely interested in the two level unit #306. The upper level master bedroom is essentially the entire white stucco band above the “Union SF” sign in the photo.
But then, you are next to the elevator and I wouldn’t trust them to spend enough on acoustical insulation.
Ditto, with Chris above. Plus, the major negatives for me were the tiny bedrooms (esp. the guest bedroom). This is made even more awkward when you see the size of the guest bath (huge). Somebody didn’t pay attention to the proportions. Also took a peek at the “stylized lofts”…what a disappointment. From the outside, the brick exterior and windows look very promising, but the interior space is awkward – living room area is tiny. Overall, I feel these are way overpriced. They now make the 77 Van Ness units look like a bargain.
The units may very well be overpriced. And the neighborhood might not be the “nicest” around. But scary? Are you kidding me?
511K for a studio in the Mission? Are there any comps that would justify that price?
Some of you need to revisit and rethink the Mission. Not the same place as 10, 5, 2, even 1 year ago! Changing rapidly. Gentrification?
Not justifying the prices, but they may be trying to reflect future upside value.
Look at Mission Bay. What’s down there? Nothing. But people are paying for what it will look like in 5-10 years. The Mission, too, will continue to change for the better. Certainly still have to pick your streets and exact locations, but the amount of development…new housing, restaurants, and upper-scale infra-structure is changing rapidly in a good way.
Oh Jebus. Having lived in Tokyo for 8 years I’m in touch with that floor plan.
But after 20 years of nearly unrelenting price declines and aggressive construction, prices for metro Tokyo, condos are about in line with this $500K pricetag, except . . . . mortgage interest rates there are 3% which means what is $500K there should be ~$325K here.
come on, this floor plan in this building would not warrant 500K even in pacific heights.
I live about 2 Blocks from this development and I absolutely love the neighborhood. The weather is great, it has wide streets with lots of parking, and great restaurants. The Mission does have a few scary areas but this part of the mission is definitely not one of them.
I live two blocks away from these but have not yet visited them in person. They look nice from the outside.
The neighborhood, however, is mixed. There has definitely been some gentrification over the last 5-10 years (remember that you have a bunch of decent restaurants within a few blocks including Blowfish, Slow Club, the new Flour + Water and Universal and a bunch of coffee places like Coffee Bar and Atlas), but there are occasional drug deals, and homeless people tend to camp out all over the area, leaving trash in their wake. There also seem to be lots of people living in trucks or vans that park in the area as well.
Unfortunately, the relatively recent completion of the mixed/BMR building at 18th and Florida/Alabama seems to have introduced some new crime into the area. I see car windows smashed in nearly every morning now. While cars were broken into prior to the completion of the BMR building, it seems that the frequency has increased substantially. Perhaps that’s coincidence. Perhaps not.
wow, what a way to market your building.
put up a picture of the backsplash and the exterior of the building. only.
funny, I thought people were in the market for a home with… you know… like rooms.
but I guess all they really want is a backsplash.
maybe my computer isn’t working, but I can’t get any pictures of the interiors on the union-SF.com website either
they shouldn’t be disappointed if these don’t sell given the minimal amount of effort put into the sales
“Unfortunately, the relatively recent completion of the mixed/BMR building at 18th and Florida/Alabama seems to have introduced some new crime into the area.”
The 3 BMR units in that building were priced from $240 – $270K. Below market rate, yes, but not exactly section 8. Your assumption that the buyers of these properties are responsible for new criminal activity is absurd.
@Dakota, do you work for Union or this building, Mosaica? Seems like you have some kind of axe to grind here? Me, I just live in the neighborhood…what do I know?
I will agree that “BMR” by itself may, in fact, be the wrong characterization. I apologize if I somehow miscommunicated the nature of the building and offended your sensibilities. As you probably know, the building has both units for sale and for rent, and it seems to be a point of debate as to how to characterize the building. See the earlier thread on this site about that topic. https://socketsite.com/archives/2009/02/mosaica_on_the_market_and_bmr_apartment_applications_so.html
Nevertheless, I live in the neighborhood, so I think I can report the facts about the increase and crime. And, I can tell you that the completion and recent occupancy of the building (mixed, affordable, BMR, rentals, for sale, whatever) has coincided with an increase in crime in the area. As I said, perhaps that is coincidence. Perhaps that’s not.
It must be nice to sit in your ivory tower and correct people reporting the facts at the street level.
@Dakota, By the way, I attended numerous neighborhood planning meetings before this building was constructed. Did you?
You know what the primary concern of the area residents was during those meetings? Yes, an increase in crime because of the potential inhabitants of the building.
And you know what? I’ve talked to more than a dozen of my neighbors since the building was completed, and they’ve all indicated that they see the same increase in crime.
As I said earlier, maybe the increase in crime is just a random coincidence. Maybe one of the loft-owning, BMW driving neighbors (I rent and I don’t have a car) is going around smashing car windows in now…
I live one block west of this development and have for the past 5 years. This is not a neighborhood for the timid or IMO for people with kids. Two weeks ago on a sunny, Sunday afternoon, two people were shot dead in a restaurant a few blocks south. The getaway car, going 100 miles per hour, lost control in front of our condo. It took out the street trees, damaged four cars, and the guy got out and ran by foot. A few moments later or earlier on some of the guests coming to my place for an afternoon party would no longer be with us. I can’t imagine having kids in this area. We basically treat our building like a fortress and it’s a lot of stress. I don’t let most of my friends walk alone at night and insist that someone go along with them. All I can say, is don’t be naive about what you are getting yourself into by choosing to live in this immediate area.
If you want to get a candid look of Union, check out this link by Curbed:
http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2009/10/02/curbed_inside_union.php
@Christopher Carrington – thanks for your comments – I used to live down the street by myself, and have been thinking about moving back w/ my gf (and potential for family in the future). Nice to get your perspective.
We walk to dinner a few times a week to local restaurants, and we park our car on the street every night with no issues. Our street has many families with kids that regularly play outside. As with many areas in the city crime rates can dramatically shift in just a few blocks. I am by no means naive to the risks associated with living in a diverse transitional neighborhood but for us the good definitely out ways the bad.
The entire Mission is patchy. Lots of great little pockets, and lots of trashy ones, with often blurry borders.
These Union SF units are way overpriced. The 2BR units shouldn’t sell for more than $600K. Anyone who pays more is just silly.
Perhaps there is a $150K surcharge to be across the street from “Blowfish Sushi To Die For and For Yuppies Who Have No Clue.”
@ Ionel
No ax to grind here. I’m just an average, tax paying citizen w/ no particular agenda. I own a BMR property with my wife and son, so I get irritated when the assumption is made that people who purchase these units bring a negative element. I can’t speak for the renters, but the BMR owners that I know are all responsible, hard working people.
I assumed the building was owner occupied, so I probably overreacted to your comment. Hope it didn’t ruin your day.
I previewed this new project a couple of weeks ago, which was a few days after they opened the sales office.
My impression is mainly positive although I only saw half of the project. The newly built Union South building where the sales office is complete and open. The brick Union North building units were not finished at that point and we were not offered to see that building.
I was told that the pricing for the two bedrooms in the south building were somewhere in the high six hundred thousand dollar range. I didn’t ask for pricing on any specific two bedroom condo.
There is no choice in the kind or color of wood floor. They are already installed and all the same color – a dark walnut. The same thing is true with cabinet color and counter tops.
I saw a furnished two level townhome model, a furnished one level condo with a small balcony and a one level condo on the courtyard (ground) level.
Interestingly,the courtyard units have no formal front door entry from an interior hallway of the building. If you live in one of the courtyard condos, you come up from the lower garage level (by elevator) to the courtyard level you have to go outside the doors leading to the courtyard, then walk to the gate of your patio and go through the patio to your condo’s sliding door. Since these condos are below street level, all of the the windows face the courtyard. Only the bedrooms and living room have the windows. Behind these rooms are the bathrooms, laundry area and kitchen. They don’t have windows.
This building also has a/c and elevator.
The courtyard didn’t appear to integrate the north with the south building but I could be wrong. Will have to go back when the other building is finished to tell.
The brick Union North building units were not finished at that point and we were not offered to see that building.
I overheard one of the sales staff offering to “sneak” an interested buyer into the brick rehab units if were willing to come back on a weekday. Not sure if they usually offer such tours though.
I was told that the pricing for the two bedrooms in the south building were somewhere in the high six hundred thousand dollar range. I didn’t ask for pricing on any specific two bedroom condo.
When I went a couple of weeks ago, I was told that the 2BR units were in the 700s to 800s. I asked one of the agents about the asking price for the cheapest 2BR they had, and he basically told me the same thing: 700s to 800s. When asked if he could be more specific, he said they couldn’t.
They also said that all of the 1BRs in the first phase were sold out. They couldn’t tell me how many 1BRs they would have in total.
I really expected the 2/2s to be upper 500s to maybe 675K. Either I am extremely naive or the sellers of this building are.
The sales office at this place must be smoking some good stuff asking for these prices. Before you start to debate about the neighborhood and determine if the price is comparable; go inside the place and check out the sales model.
I was there over the weekend and decided to take a quick peak. I forgot what unit # the models are but I check out one on the 3rd floor #317? 2 bedroom asking $735k and there was a column pole going right down the middle of the small master bedroom. No joke! As someone mentioned above, who ever designed the floorplan decided to have extra large bathrooms and small bedrooms. For all those complaining about One Rincon or Infinity with the poles, please go check these units out.
As my wife mentioned, shouldn’t they be showing the best floorplans for their models? If so and these were the best, good luck with that.
Best way to describe this project is quirky. Its sort of like Jeff Lewis meets Anthropologie x Ikea. Don’t get me wrong I like quirky and “up and coming” but not at over $700k.
Not a “scary” ‘hood at all. Some of the best architecture in the Mission right around here. This may not be it, but it’s not atrocious. Great food, drinks, parking, weather, location.
all neighborhoods in SF has their own little issues – the price is little high, but the units are nice. i don’t know why people are so haters nowadays…