The rendering for Radiance at Mission Bay Phase II is above (for which the site has been prepped and the pilings driven). The full SocketSite scoop on Phase I in the background (literally, not figuratively) is coming soon (as in this afternoon or possibly Monday).
∙ Radiance At Mission Bay: Phase I Model Units Opening This Weekend [SockeSite]
Ah, I didn’t realize there was a part 2. I work at the UCSF Mission Bay campus and wondered why the building as is looked so ugly. It’ll look much better when totally built out.
This will be a nice addition, but does anyone know when they will start construction? Are we going to have to wait for years as we are with other properties?
SFhighrise — “The rendering for Radiance at Mission Bay Phase II is above (for which the site has been prepped and the pilings driven)”
Did Radiance I sell very well? To be moving ahead now with a project this large seems courageous.
Nevermind, I see that an update is coming up on Phase I…TGIF
Matt- Thanks for pointing this out. I am aware of the rendering and of the pilings. That does not address my question. These pilings were done several months ago and it is currently a vacant plot of land. I have not heard any mention of when they plan to resume construction.
Wow that is impressive. That is much better than Phase I, I do not like that brown color.
is this in San Diego or vegas?
oh wait. this is hideous IMHO. at least we get more palm trees(tic)
We went to view the model homes onsite for Radiance I. First of all, the place is desolate for a Sat afternoon. There were ten times more seagulls then people. Second, the views for the waterfront townhome was pretty underwhelming. The piers blocks much of the bay and you’re looking over the main street. For $1200/sqft, no thanks. I’d much rather be on Berry overlooking Mission Creek…
I have to say this is one development that so far looks significantly worse in person than in the renderings. Maybe I’ll change my mind once the landscaping and surrounding areas are completed.
Hopefully someone opens up some ground floor retail and restaurants soon. Jelly’s and Mission Rock do not befit this type of real estate.
These are some homeowners that likely pray the San Francisco Giant’s proposal wins out for Parking Lot A nearby. I’ll keep my fingers crossed that the Giants win too.
Spencer, it is funny that you think this could be San Diego or Vegas since this builder does a LOT of projects in San Diego, and seems to have just re-worked one of the designs and plopped it on what is currently a no-mans-land area of Mission Bay. While buyers wait until 2020 for infill projects to fill the vacant land that surrounds them, why couldn’t this project be honest that it is in a commercial port district. I think it would have been interesting if this was less “San Diego”, and more like many port adjacent projects I have seen in Seattle and even parts of Europe (Hamburg) that have a bit of an “edge” and reflect the gritty districts they are in. I would love to have a loft down there, but a San Diego “luxury” condo with palms, and firepit gathering area?
The website says everything with the picture of the guy sitting on the BEACH(?) on white sand watching the sunset. This is where exactly in Mission Bay?
Does anyone know what the project currently under construction accross third is. It does not sit directly on Third but rather farther west on what will eventually be the extension of 4th. It is pretty far along in construction but I haven’t heard anything about it.
[Editor’s Note: That we do: 555 Mission Rock Apartments: Additional Details And Timing.]
Why, since you mention Hamburg, imagine if SF had guts & didn’t embrace design-by-every-committee. Hope the link below takes you there. Fascinating urban development which has depth, intrigue and urban complexity.
Also, and shamelessly, MB turns its back on its main asset — the bay. MUNI, retail, and ped-cycle transit is inward. Might as well be in landlocked anywhere.
http://www.hafencity.com/index.php?set_language=en&cccpage=projekte_detail&show=projekte&item=1
Invented, it is nice to see that Hamburg is not afraid to invite designers from other areas for consideration in how to make an urban area better. Their Chicago Square project is a real inspiration to what San Francisco could be doing by looking outside for guidelines in urban success in other locations.
The Chicago River is now lined with one of the greatest collections of architecture in the world and there is now a big business in tour boats conducting architecture river tours. There is no reason Mission Bay could not have been more intesting, complex and bold. I think the natural setting of San Francisco is so unique that planners feel no need to put in the effort to create better design.
http://www.hafencity.com/download.php?file=broschueren/z_en_broschueren_17_Focus_Chicago_Square.pdf
As I understand from the agents at Radiance I, the funding for Radiance II has dried up. The consortium of banks that were “packaging” the financing pulled out as California is the foreclosure capital of the world…while not in SF; the taint rubs off on new construction in SF and thus the investors have no access to capital to move on with the project. Thus the view will be of pilings. If and when the new construction ever starts, the noise, dirt, and grit in the area will be overwhelming. The noise on Berry Street with Avalon, the interminable construction of the Arterra, and the two MissionWalk projects are a continuing cacophony of construction noise. The Radiance II is a larger project and thus the noise will go on for years and years. What’s more any views that look West from Radiance I will be gone. What the rendering does not show is the office building to the South, so your view is an office building, a quiet neighbor for sure, but zero life in the area after 5:00PM. In the front of Radiance I is the new boat ramp. Which is also the ramp for the Quackers…a tourist delight…and somewhat annoying as the tour guide’s pitch is done via a loud speaker. Add to that the traffic for the Giant Games,and the club scene at Jelly’s and you have an interesting mix of noise and inconvenience.
Speaking of which, how’s that ORH tower 2 groundbreaking going?
As a Realtor who had earlier this year brought in a prospective buyer to the Radiance sales office (as well as being personally interested), I got invited to attend a sneak preview party on April 17th of Phase I’s first furnished model – a tri-level town home. The party for sure didn’t disappoint – free valet parking, numerous upscale restaurants catering some fabulous appetizers, free flowing wine, shuttle buses escorting guests to the on-site decorated model every few minutes to and from the sales office. Excitement and expectations had been building from project marketing, the sales office literature, project brochure and now the party. I knew ahead of time the project’s location, had copies of the floor plans, square footage and prices. Unfortunately, the fantasy was blown away when reality hit me between the eyes as I entered the model. It was underwhelming. I honestly had been expecting to be “wowed” because of the pricing and hoa fees. But the actual size of the rooms felt cramped(at least in this floor plan), the lack of air circulation (aka a/c) in this east facing unit made you conscious that you were sweating, the odd looking (to me) bathroom faucet fixtures and the fact that Phase I doesn’t have a doorman took its toll. The final straw is the isolated and underdeveloped location isn’t close enough to walk to anything other than a couple of waterfront restaurants. I know that eventually that will change. But with the downturn in the economy that might be a while. Other than the 3rd st. street rail, you’ll still have to drive, which makes it more like living on the peninsula than in San Francisco.
“MB turns its back on its main asset — the bay. MUNI, retail, and ped-cycle transit is inward”
Very quite contrary, MB planners have ardent
intentions to connect the area with the water. Down the pipe line is a necklace of shoreline parks along the Pier on Terry Francois Way to encourage the city to embrace one of its best asset – the bay. 2 boat new landings have been built to give fruit to this vision. The one across from the Radiance is already widely used by the “quackers, the yauchting clubs and locals taking a trip to the ball park. A kayak facility at the canal park is in the works and UCSF I understand will be offering the public classes in watersports…at least kayaking classes to start I hear. The shoreline along the piers has been designated part of the regional bicycle greenway which will connect to the Embarcadero and the future Bay Bridge bicycle lane to Oakland.
Furthermore, like at Berry St, planners have significantly cut the amount of street parking to encourage local transit, bicycle and pedestrian activity. Case example: The street on the south side of the Radiance is not wide enough to accomodate any street parking (which I think is a bummer).
There is a host of wonderful things SLOW moving in the pipeline if you dig hard enough, read the MB planning guidelines and study the approved zoning use mapping.
I had a chance to get myself in to look at 4th courtyard. Fire pit may not be appropriate for San Francisco. But The views are much better than I expected. You can see well over the piers the entire Bay Bridge, Oakland, Downtown, Civic Center. The 9th floor view are really nice…not as drop dead spectacular as ORH but still has a wow factor considering the unexpected. One big advantage with the Radiance views of the water won’t be blocked like the Infinity and others since Radiance is right on the waterfront. The Coastal Commission guidelines does not allow the piers to go higher (w/o a tortuous fight).
What other sees as ugly ducklingly of an area will one day to blossom to quite something coveted in 10 years. It’s desolate for now but it will be PACKed with activity once it’s built…and maybe too “packed” depending what pans out with Seawall 337. One hopes developers don’t spoil the vision.
I agree the reddish gray color of the Radiance is uggh and to add the lobby furnishing is kind of dowdy for SF. So far the Brannan lobby is one the top of my list.
I agree the reddish gray color of the Radiance is uggh and to add the lobby furnishing is kind of dowdy for SF. So far the Brannan lobby is one the top of my list.
Why is everyone on this site so negative? We have looked at a wider range of SF one BR condos and this by far the nicest building/condo on the market old or new, for the price. It seems as though the future vision for the area is pretty cool, and should it all pan out… well who knows.
“The full SocketSite scoop on Phase I in the background (literally, not figuratively) is coming soon (as in this afternoon or possibly Monday).”
Where is the update? Monday the 2nd?