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As we wrote about 170 Saint Germain in March:

Having been expanded both horizontally and vertically and completely rebuilt since being purchased for $1,400,000 in 2003, 170 St. Germain Avenue has just returned to the market as a 4,300 square foot contemporary home listed for $4,500,000.

According to the listing, “professional photos” are to follow and there won’t be any Sunday open houses. We’ll keep you plugged-in on both accounts.

Reduced to $4,250,000 in May and then withdrawn from the market two weeks later, it’s a plugged-in tipster that notes 170 St. Germain has been relisted anew for $4,500,000, albeit now with five, versus four, bedrooms and 6,744 listed square feet.
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While the listing once again notes no Sunday open house, it will be open tomorrow and Saturday. And we’ll also note the new listing doesn’t include a photo of the façade, which might make perfect sense, at least to some.
170 St. Germain Today (www.SocketSite.com)
∙ Listing: 170 St. Germain Avenue (5/5) 4,300 sqft – $4,500,000 [MLS]
170 Saint Germain: Before, After And A Peek Inside (Poke To Follow) [SocketSite]

Comments from Plugged-In Readers

  1. Posted by anon94123

    What a very sad tree in front of that terrible concrete wall.

  2. Posted by The Milkshake of Despair

    This would sell easier if the facade were remodeled to look less like a small office building, especially that rear face.

  3. Posted by resp

    please please find me another immigrant with no taste and a lot of money.
    sorry.
    anyhow, there’s some fun reading on the seller’s past run-in with the IRS.

  4. Posted by joe

    SS readers — I don’t care how many square feet they stuff into this place, it will NEVER be a $4.5 million property. Never.
    There are a whole lot of places that can be purchased in SF for $3 million plus that are better than this. (Yes, I know — subjective.)
    But really, what does this place have going for it? If someone disagrees with me, please defend the $4.5 million price. I would like to know why someone believes it is worth this much.

  5. Posted by joe

    Oh, and one more comment — the curvy mirrors in photo 16; Target? Ikea? Is that really the master bath sink?

  6. Posted by [anon.ed]

    No, it reads “lower level half bath” in its caption.

  7. Posted by The Ugly One

    No Kitchen? No pics?

  8. Posted by blfstyk

    Quite possibly the ugliest house I’ve ever seen; definitely the ugliest $4.5M house.

  9. Posted by Joe

    Wow, harsh words for this.
    I dont think its ugly at all. the tree will grow up.

  10. Posted by Footie

    There is some serious lack of taste and design in this house inside and out — it’s like something out of Z Gallery 10 years ago.

  11. Posted by joe

    @Joe – really? not ugly? The front of this place is just wrong — very poorly proportioned by any design standard one wants to apply.
    As Frank Lloyd Wright once said: “A doctor can bury his mistakes, the best an Architect can do is plant vines.”
    (And yes, I know it isn’t the exact quote — but pretty close.)

  12. Posted by sfrenegade

    “especially that rear face.”
    I actually thought the reverse — you know, the way some people think of Kim Kardashian, the back is better than the front.

  13. Posted by radar

    While the facade is less than interesting, it could be addressed with some decorative changes and plants would be a good start. $4.5 million ? I doubt it will garner that price but we have been surprised in the past so I will not second guess what someone is willing to pay for a home.
    What startled my senses initially is the fact that the agent or photographer allowed those ‘Recology’ garbage cans to be included in the photo……..just wrong.

  14. Posted by shza

    ^^^^^
    Per the post, the listing doesn’t include any photos of the front facade at all; the one with the cans comes from the editor.
    Agree with the others about the front facade, especially that concrete wall. Wow.

  15. Posted by BobN

    Actually, I think if you picked up the house, flipped it back to front and set it back down, it would look great. The sleek modern rear facade pines for that concrete wall and vice versa.

  16. Posted by Footie

    This house is a sad contrast to the beautifully remodeled 140 St. Germain which sold over asking for $5.2M. This is simply a case of good v. bad design.

  17. Posted by EBGuy

    According to the SF Recorder’s site, a NOTS was filed on March 4, 2011.

  18. Posted by EBGuy

    See also 733 Front St #213 for a NOD on 5/25/2011.
    @resp, This was the highlight for me from the legal proceedings: petitioner obtained a salesperson’s license.

  19. Posted by Pumpkin

    I honestly don’t understand the SF market for the $3m+ homes that are outside of very specific Northern neighborhoods (Pac Heights, Presidio Heights, Russian Hill). Can someone explain it to me? It seems that they are harder to sell when they are not in the above mentioned neighborhoods. Am I correct? Do their price per sq. foot change from smaller homes in the same neighborhood? I am just curious?
    It just seems to me that most people who are willing to spend well over $3m on a home prefer places like Pac Heights. Maybe I am wrong…

  20. Posted by 4oceans

    That spindly tree may grow, but if they can’t find a way to hide those awful garbage cans…. this pop up-n-out house ain’t worth more than $1.5.

  21. Posted by Patrick

    I’m not an expert and I can’t speak to the pricetag but I went to the open house and thought it was gorgeous. It doesn’t make any sense but the best parts of the house aren’t in any of the pictures. The entry level has an amazing view from the golden gate bridge to downtown and the bay bridge. The bedrooms have very high ceilings and really well done tile work in the bathrooms on the top floor. The view from the master bedroom is the best I’ve seen in the city. The gas fireplaces in master and livingroom are very cool. The whole place has a very open, spacious, and contemporary (modern?) feel.

  22. Posted by Mark

    To commenter about spending 3+mm for non Pac-heights neighborhood..
    The issue is one of Upper East Side vs. West Village in NYC. Google millions or artists or TEch dollars tend much more to want to live away from Pac Heights. The very existence of “Daniel Steele” embodies the moribund, culture-dead, super old zeitgeist that reigns that part of the city. Thus, you will find that PAc heights has few interesting bookstores, fewer young creatives, and a lack of trend-setting cuisine in the way that Mission has these things. It is the very same reason that Facbook, Google and Biotech companies that bus people in from Mountain View must use most of their busses to service Mission, Castro and Soma where young people live and where startups thrive.

  23. Posted by sfrenegade

    “It is the very same reason that Facbook, Google and Biotech companies that bus people in from Mountain View must use most of their busses to service Mission, Castro and Soma where young people live and where startups thrive.”
    It’s a good thing this house is in one of those three neighborhoods… :p
    Seriously, making silly overbroad comments like this isn’t productive.

  24. Posted by [anon.ed]

    “It’s a good thing this house is in one of those three neighborhoods… :p
    Seriously, making silly overbroad comments like this isn’t productive

    Yeah right. You’re a real captain of industry with that comment.
    The guy was trying to answer a specific question, a question that mentioned three neighborhoods only. So you disagree. Fine. But make a point if you’re gonna come at somebody that way.

  25. Posted by SocketSite

    The list price for 170 Saint Germain has been reduced $550,000 (12 percent), now asking $3,950,000 versus $4,250,000 in May before being withdrawn and listed anew.

  26. Posted by SocketSite

    The list price for 170 Saint Germain has just been reduced $251,000 (6 percent), now asking $3,699,000 versus $4,250,000 in May before being withdrawn and listed anew.

  27. Posted by SocketSite

    After 114 days on the market, the listing for 170 Saint Germain has been withdrawn from the MLS without a reported sale.

  28. Posted by noof

    And the plot thickens! This place was listed for rent at $15k a month. Someone rented it and turned it into a “hero accelerator,” which seems to mean “fancy dorm.”
    From the looks of some photos that were posted online, the master bedroom is filled with bunk beds now:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/this-san-francisco-mansion-is-where-peter-thiels-genius-kids-party-and-plot-2012-1

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