“Pointing to a map of ACORN’s research showing the hardest hit areas in San Francisco – Ocean View, Bayview, Visitacion Valley, Excelsior – Quezada said she believed lenders and mortgage brokers targeted the area’s most vulnerable borrowers.”
∙ 4,800 subprime Bay Area loans at risk of foreclosure by 2008 [SFGate]
It’s just stupid to point at the areas with the highest rate of foreclosure and and complain that lenders “targeted” them for subprime loans. Of *course* they did. The entire reason that subprime loans exist is to provide loans that have a higher risk of loss or default. That’s why they’re not “prime” and that’s why they have higher rates. The problem isn’t that subprimes have higher rates of default than prime loans. They were supposed to. The problem is that they have higher rates even than the lenders had thought. Which means it’s the lenders getting screwed over.
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This is getting more exciting by the day.
The question is, when do we see the effects creep into areas that aren’t supposed to be high risk and then what happens next?
You’re right, it is getting pretty exciting to see how ugly things are getting.
In the eyes of a banker, there’s not much remedy for stupid consumers. Maybe some of these people should have actually read the terms of the promissory notes they were signing, and/or perhaps do some 2-5 year cash flow budgeting. Or not, and then just self-combust and lay blame on the lender. Kind of like smokers who continue to sue Philip Morris.
I doubt we see any creep into the quality areas of the City…it takes a pretty desparate and uninformed person to sign up for a subprime loan.
The question is, when do we see the effects creep into areas that aren’t supposed to be high risk and then what happens next?
Watch the pay option loans. Those were considered prime and their default rates are shooting up. An overwhelming majority are getting paid using the minimum payment, which means negative amortization of those loans.
There is a cap on the amount that is allowed to go Neg Am before the payments reset to the actual payment to pay off the interest and principal. When the cap gets hit, watch out. And these are prime loans. Not for desperate and uninformed.
Here’s the latest on Option ARMs from a WSJ article. I can’t believe Mozilo was just “shocked” that people were making the minimum payment.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119318489086669202.html?mod=todays_us_money_and_investing
I saw him interviewed on TV last night, he’s one of the sleaziest looking characters I’ve seen. His face looks like a catcher’s mit. The ultimate “broker” slime.
What I don’t get is WHY people would make so many loans to sub prime people in the first place and NOT expect a good portion of them to somehow default.
I mean, isn’t the definition of a subprime loan risk um, SUB PRIME? In that either a person doesn’t have the income necessary to sustain the loan over the agreed to period, or perhaps has other issues that keeps them from getting a plain old loan?
Put another way – if I loan my friend who has a job, etc. $1000 and who is a responsible member of The Community, and I know he’s honest and whatnot, I can expect to get my $1000 back.
If I loan some stranger who’s a drifter or just kind of a flake, is it likely I’m getting my $1000? No. So why would a company loaning millions of $$$$ do the latter?
Esp. given that wages are stagnating for many people, and aren’t keeping up. People are using credit cards to maintain a lifestyle they simply can’t afford. And then thigns start to go bad. This is a surprise?
Why make a subprime loan? Partly if the house goes up in value fast enough, even if he can’t make the payments, the borrower can just sell the house for more than he paid and pay off the loan. And partly because if the mortgage broker can find a bigger sucker to buy the loan from him and pocket his commission in the process, what does he care if it defaults?
link http://tinyurl.com/2k9jj4
Subprime has historically had default rates only slightly less than other loan categories. When it was introduced the criteria required for a loan like that were quite rigorous. Way back then appraisals were taken more seriously, and banks had strict lending standards. A whole range of safeguards had to be abandoned in order to reach this point, and the subprime market will probably still do fine because they are some of the only new customers that banks have seen for a while.